Thursday, July 24, 2008

Dragonball Manga: Contradictions

For those that thought that the Manga was completely correct, you are about to take a journey into the truth. Toriyama-sensei couldn't have made everything correct and exact. Many folks bash the Daizenshuu when it itself has some corrections for the Manga, but then again as I proved earlier it is not completely correct either. One thing we have learned in this world is, "...nothing is perfect".
I will show 2 contradictions out of the hundredths that there are, and I will provide the most vital. I am not bashing the Manga, and by God not my former boss Toriyama-sama just clearing out for those that claim the Manga is correct, and that Manga based curriculums are 100% true, then think again.
1. GOKU VS CELL: Son Goku, destroyed Cell's brain, and later on when Cell, self destructs, he explains that his resurrection was due to the fact that a Cell from his brain survived the explosion. By this the Manga is implying that all the Z fighters had to do is destroy his brain which Son Goku did, so it is therefore a contradiction.

2. In the Original Manga, Jisu gets ready to read Bejita's power level and he reads his battle power at " ..20,000!". Refer to Daizenshuu 7 and you see that in the battle power chart, Bejita's battle power for when Son Goku arrives on Planet Namek is 30,000. As far as we know this is the first place ever to give Bejita's battle power from that time as being 30,000. Look at the Kanzenban re-release of the Manga(which I worked in) which featured things such as slightly revised artwork and a new ending by Toriyama-sensei, the dialogue from before Bejita fight Reccome is change so that Bejita's power level coincides with the Daizenshuu 7.

Many people say that Toriyama-sensei had nothing to do with any of the Daizenshuu's because he made the Dragonball Escheat in 1994, that is completely untrue. Also people say that he wasn't invovled in GT either, which is also false. In the past, it has been proved Toriyama's initial involvement in DragonBall GT via his early character and landscape designs in the daizenshuu and DBGT Perfect File books. Daizenshuu 6 ("MOVIES & TV SPECIALS"), in particular, showcases Toriyama's character designs for the likes of Coola (and his henchmen), movie 7's jinzôningen, Broli, Bojack, etc.
What about the general filler material in the TV show?Toriyama had nothing to do with any of that, right...? Not quite.It is certainly not the case that Toriyama wrote and "drew" every single episode in the TV series, but the recent anime guide Son Gokû Densetsu finally gives us a little glimpse into the clearly-overworked man's involvement in the TV series. There were many character designs Toriyama came up with for filler material, including Paikuhan, Dai-Kaiô, and the beginnings of King Vegeta. We also learn that for many story points, Toriyama would typically come up with a vague idea and leave a memo for the TV series staff to, essentially, go wild with and develop a full story from said idea. Some of these items included the back-history of the Saiyans and the Tsufurus for DBZ episode 20, the Z-Senshi's training with the "Ancient" Saiyans via Kami's Palace, and Lunch's persistent chasing of Tenshinhan. Yamcha's job as a baseball player was Toriyama-sensei's idea! Also remember cases such as Bardock, who was essentially a joint-collaboration between Akira Toriyama and Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru. In fact, Toriyama liked the idea so much, he ended up integrating it into his own canon storyline in the manga.
So please don't listen to dumb rumors retwisting or denying what took place because it is completely untrue.

James A. Nelson

Kuririn's power level against Ginyu Taicho

This was requested by many people on the infamous site, youtube. Which I recieved a total amount of 58 requests from many youtubers. And I personally have gotten this argument in many debates in Japan. So the question is, was Kuririn's power level against Ginyu Taicho over 23,000? The answer is quite simple, but you will need the Original scripture to see the undeniable truth. Look at the entire battle:


Ginyu which was stated to be 23,000 when in Son Goku's body, and he was also commended to be barely handling Goku's body. Look clearly as Kuririn attacks Ginyu in Goku's body from behind. Jisu clearly stated Son Gohan and Kuririn both to be "over 10,000..." meaning Kuririn wouldn't have been over 20,000. Because it would have been stated, over 20,000. Also in the Manga, Bejita sensed a "great power..." coming toward his way, he though it was Zarbon at first, but then he corrected himself and said the power was inferior to Zarbon's. From what we know, Zarbon was 23,000 as well. If you look with care, Kuririn was afraid of Zarbon, and why would Kuririn be afraid of someone stronger than him? Now you might say, "But if Kuririn was below 20,000 he would be completely beaten up by Ginyu in Goku, because he was 23,000. And if you look at the battle between Bejita and Dodoria, Bejita was 24,000; and Dodoria was 20,000. Only a mere 4,000 superiority, and Bejita completely demolished him". The thing is, Bejita when he got Zenkai he was at the 500,000 range considering he fared a match against Freeza who was at 530,000. And was Jisu 500,000? Of course not; and did Bejita completely demolish him in the instant? Krillin was below 20,000 when against Ginyu. Son Gohan did indeed make it over 20,000; because he is a saiyajin and his anatomy is that of a faster and more complex rate. Kuririn is just a human.

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